One of these things is not like the other.

"I didn't really, I mean, want to be in any pictures," (Enland) said. She also said she thought "it was kind of weird."

"She was laughing at the different stuff they were having the detainees do," Specialist Sivits said, describing Pfc. Lynndie R. England, another soldier charged.

Asked who gave the orders, she would say only, "Persons in my chain of command."

Specialist Sivits was asked if the abuse would have happened if someone in the chain of command was present. "Hell no," he replied, adding: "Because our command would have slammed us..."

There seem to be a lot of realities going around these days...